I realize that this is a very emotional issue for many; and the last thing I ever want to be accused of, is repression of free speech.
Having said that, I present an alternative view on the Mosque at Ground Zero:
Category: 9/11
War Porn Video: Second Battalion Seventh Marines Fox Company in Zad, Afghanistan
Awesome show Gents! đ (H/T to the Jawa Report on Facebook)
I post stuff like this, to make liberals and libertarians like Lew Rockwell heads explode. đ
A very big “tip of the hat” to our men and women in uniform in the “Dust bowls” of Iraq and Afghanistan!
The Feckless Far-Right: Exhibit ZB For Zionist Bigotry
I never thought that in a million years that I would be siding with this Blogger. But damn it; he is right.
Guess where this quote is from:
President Obama came out Friday evening in favor of the Islamic supremacist mega-mosque at the hallowed ground of the 9/11 attack.
Obama told the ummah (at an Iftar dinner on the third night of Ramadan) that he supports a triumphal mosque on the cherished site where Islamic jihadists attacked.
If you had any doubt who Obama stood with on 9/11, there can be no doubt in our minds now.
Un-farking-believable. đŻ
I’m really honestly worried about what is becoming of the Conservative Blogosphere. đ
You tell me the difference between these two quotes
There is something eerily familiar about this quote:
“This is not about freedom of religion,” Cornyn said. “I do think it’s unwise to build a mosque in the site where 3,000 Americans lost their lives as the result of a terrorist attack.”Voters “sense that theyâre being lectured to, not listened to” by Democrats, he said. “The American people will render their verdict.”
Is it just me, or does that that sound much like:
Today I have stood, where once Jefferson Davis stood, and took an oath to my people. It is very appropriate then that from this Cradle of the Confederacy, this very Heart of the Great Anglo-Saxon Southland, that today we sound the drum for freedom as have our generations of forebears before us done, time and time again through history. Let us rise to the call of freedom-loving blood that is in us and send our answer to the tyranny that clanks its chains upon the South. In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny . . . and I say . . . segregation today . . . segregation tomorrow . . . segregation forever.
I am just saying….
This issue will be the death the Republican Party, if they are not very careful. They are giving the Democrats the talking point that they need to defeat them in 2010…and 2012. At this point, as much as it pains me to say it —-They deserve it.
Update: Seeing that no one seems to get what I am trying to say. I will explain it. What is happening here is this; the Republican Party is pandering to the irrational fears of the general public towards Muslims. Just like George Wallace did with the southern Democrats, when they pandered to the White people in the South and their irrational fears of black people back in 1963. It is the same hate, the same pandering and the exact same bigotry. The only difference is, one was directed at blacks and this one is directed at Muslims and more broadly toward Arabs.
I have seen all of the rationalizations for all of this nonsense, and it is nothing more than vary nuanced bigotry. Only difference is that we did not use Arabs for slaves and did not lynch any of them. At least not yet. But I believe if the Republicans had their way; we would be lynching them, all of them, for what happened on 9/11.
Now this is not to say that I am not aware of the danger of Islamic terrorism or unaware or unwilling to accept the fact that there are Muslims who wish to impose Sharia Law in this Country. I am quite aware of that. But there is a big difference between awareness and bigotry; and this nonsense here is nothing more than nuanced bigotry. Period.
Possibly the greatest political t-shirt ever made
If you loved the photo, you absolutely love this T-Shirt:
The Classless Left: Exhibit I for Insensitivity
Here is the official position of 9/11 by the liberal left in 2010: (H/T to Sister Toldjah via Infidels are Cool)
Given that they [Muslims] are such a small minority in this nation, it is odd that so many of our fellow citizens see them as such a threat. Yes, the 9/11 attacks were horrific, but they were more about optics than actual harm. The economy was already taking a hit before the Twin Towers fell. The reaction of the nation to seeing two major buildings in New York fall on T.V. has boosted the attack out of proportion. While the loss of even a single life is to be condemned and the devastation these deaths caused the families of those killed, more than this number of teens are killed every year in car crashes. These are also tragic losses but we do not make the kind of high profile issue of it that the 9/11 attacks are. – Source: DailyKOS
Wow. Just Wow. đŻ
I wonder if President Obama agrees with that? It is to wonder.
Awesome Video: Montage of Military Reunions
(H/T to The Jawa Report)
I, as a libertarian-type of “Right of Center,” believe that any politician, who even has the remote thought of starting a war; ought to be strapped to a chair and FORCED to watch this video. (I’m talking to YOU Bill Kristol and John and Norman Podhartz!…..and any other damn Wilsonian Conservative out there!)
The Feckless Far-Right: Exhibit C for Collectivism
Here is another example of why I distance myself from the Christian Far-Right in this Country.
A person by the name of Bryan Fischer over at a Blog named Focal Point at the American Family Association writes the following:
Permits should not be granted to build even one more mosque in the United States of America, let alone the monstrosity planned for Ground Zero. This is for one simple reason: each Islamic mosque is dedicated to the overthrow of the American government.
Each one is a potential jihadist recruitment and training center, and determined to implement the âGrand Jihadâ of which Andy McCarthy has written.
Here is the strategy, in their own words, in the words of âAn Explanatory Memorandumâ circulated by the Muslim Brotherhood in 1991 which outlines âthe General Strategic Goalâ for the Islamic movement âin North America.â
He proceeds to quote the following:
Read it and shudder:
Muslims âmust understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and âsabotagingâ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and Godâs religion is made victorious over all other religions…It is a Muslimâs destiny to perform Jihad and work wherever he is and wherever he lands until the final hour comes, and there is no escape from that destiny…â (emphasis mine)
Here is where Mr. Fischer goes astray; he is quoting from The Muslim Brotherhood, A Muslim extremist group, who has been banned in other Muslim Countries. What he is doing here, is something that is common in Far-Right, Conservative Christian circles and that is the use of collectivism; assuming that ALL Muslims believe exactly the way that the Muslim Brotherhood believes. The question is, does the Muslim Brotherhood speak for all Muslims? The Muslim Brotherhood might believe that they do; but the question is, do they actually speak for the entire Muslim Community? Some would say that Fischer is a bigot, I will not assume that, I do not know Mr. Fischerâs heart. But, I will say that the attitude that this man is portraying here is the same attitude that was displayed towards the black race in the south during the Jim Crow era.
Fischer continues:
Because of this subversive ideology, Muslims cannot claim religious freedom protections under the First Amendment. They are currently using First Amendment freedoms to make plans to destroy the First Amendment altogether. There is no such thing as freedom of religion in Islam, and it is sheer and utter folly for Americans to delude themselves into thinking otherwise.
Ask the Hutaree Christian militia how much good it did them to plaster Bible verses all over their website while plotting attacks against government officials. They are currently pondering the limits of the First Amendment, as they should, from the inside of a jail cell. The First Amendment cannot be used as a cloak for subversive activity.
Again, Mr. Fischer is assuming that all Muslims agree with the Muslim Brotherhood, which again is a faulty reasoning.
Another point I would like to make here. It is a point that I am sure that Mr. Fischer most likely did not think about. The idea of the United States Government banning the new construction of Religious building is not a smart one. The reasoning is this; that whole idea can be a two-edged sword. The same United States Government that would tell Muslims that they could not build Mosques —- is the same Government that could suddenly decide that new Churches should not be built either. Do you see where I am going with this? The less that the United States Government gets involved with the Religious affairs of America, the better. We have that first amendment for a reason; and I, as a Fundamentalist Baptist Christian, would prefer if it stayed that way!
This whole idea, that we have to treat Muslims different than any other religion is flawed on itâs face. Yes, I know that Islamic terrorism is an issue. If and when the Government finds these people, we should arrest them. But it is the Muslim communityâs job to insure that extremism is rooted out of itâs ranks. Not the United States Governmentâs.
If we being to allow the Government to exercise any sort of control over ANY aspect of ANY religion at all, we will be putting ourselves unto a slippery slope that we will never be able to reverse.
UPDATED: Photo of the Day
This comes via the USO – Dallas/Ft. Worth Chapter:
President George W. Bush Greeting the troops at Dallas/Ft. Worth Airport earlier today
Allow me this space to write a few words…. I will be the first to say that I did not always agree with President George W. Bush on policy. But I will say this; I did always know, just right where he stood, on all policy matters. For all of his faults while he was in office; the man did one thing right and that was the decision to sacrifice his Presidency for the war on terror. President Bush knew the stakes and knew the he would most likely become a lame duck President. However, that did not bother him and he did what he had to do, to defend this great nation of ours.
Like him or not….President Bush was and still is a leader, he loved our Military and was willing to take the heat of criticism from the left, for the many deaths of our Military’s officers during the Iraqi war.
I may not have voted for him, but I do and will always respect him.
Update: Memeornadum Thread
Daughter of 9/11 victim who is Muslim says, Build your mosque somewhere else
A very heart rending story. đ
On the morning of Tuesday, Sept. 11, 2001, I watched as terrorists slammed United Flight 175 into the South Tower of the World Trade Center, 18 minutes after their accomplices on another hijacked plane hit the North Tower. My mother was on the flight. I witnessed her murder on live television. I still cannot fully comprehend those images. In that moment, I died as well. I carry a hole in my heart that will never be filled.
From the first memorial ceremonies I attended at Ground Zero, I have always been moved by the site; it means something to be close to where my mother may be buried, it brings some peace. That is why the prospect of a mosque near Ground Zero — or a church or a synagogue or any religious or nationalistic monument or symbol — troubles me.
via A Muslim victim of 9/11: ‘Build your mosque somewhere else’.
Go read the rest of this; it is heart wrenching.
Anyone, with any sort of common sense would agree with this; but it is quite obvious that this common sense in not found in liberal circles. This is evidenced by this idiotic tripe, written by some moronic asshole on the liberal left. Which tends to make me believe that liberals are supportive, even sympathetic to the cause of those who flew those planes into the trade center, and the pentagon. Hell, after all, did not some of the liberal left accuse George W. Bush of ordering the attacks; and basically say that the United States deserved the attacks because of “Bush-Hitler” and his capitalistic society?
Leave it to the liberal left, to collectively piss on the graves of those who died on 9/11. It is what they are about good for. That and disrespecting those who’ve died in wars.
Conservative Bloggers and Conservatives on general, have been condemned by the liberal bloggers for referring to the liberals in this Country, as Anti-American. Well, as a former “Left of Center”, who woke up and smelled the coffee about the Democratic Party and those within it; let me say this —- Yes, they are Anti-American. Anyone who would support a Muslim Mosque within 25 or more miles of where those on 9/11 died, is nothing more than traitor to America. Plain and simple; you cannot claim to support America, its ideals and its freedoms; and then at the same damned time hand a token of victory to the Muslims; by allowing them to build this sort of a building. It just is not possible.
As I said once before; In the name GOD; do not allow this to happen.
Others: Sister Toldjah, JammieWearingFool, Liberty Pundits Blog, Hugh Hewitt’s TownHall Blog, Jihad Watch, and Weasel Zippers
Here it is: My official opinion on the New York Mosque that is being built near the 9/11 site
Two Blocks, four blocks, it does not damn matter…
Here is my opinion: (STRONG CONTENT WARNING!)
I saw the above video with the following comment under it:
“And we’re suppose to not think nothing of letting a Mosque to be built near ground zero. These people are really quite arrogant and cruel to us…and they have the gall to say we’re arrogant. The people who suffered because of 9/11 deserve to thought of better than this”
…Let me go on the record as saying….
That I totally and wholeheartedly agree. This is not about religious freedom, nor is it about hating Muslims or Islam. It is about protecting the memories of those who died on September 11, 2001; all 2,976 victims.
United We Stand, divided we fall.
In the name of the God — Do not let this happen.
Update: Memeornadum Thread