Answering Laurence Vance

I write this piece to answer the libertarian leftist Laurence Vance’s smear piece against me. An article for what it is worth has only brought 143 visitors to my blog, as of this writing. For a man, who is supposedly an authority on all things libertarian; not to mention all things Austrian economics —That my friend is quite amusing, I guess Lew Rockwell and company are legends in their own minds — at best.

I will not sit here and pick apart this entire ridiculous article, which is filled with in inaccuracies about me, who I listen to in talk radio, and all the other silly assumptions that those of the idiotic leftist mentality believe about us, who happen to respect and support our Military. Nevertheless, I will correct this leftist imbecile on some issues.

First off, whom or what I listen to on television: I guess Mr. Vance assumes that Fox News Network in my Television when I am awake. This is a gross fallacy; I only watch Fox News during the daytime; that is, if and when, I decide to turn the blasted thing on. I think I may watch an hour of Television at most, as for during the opinion hour at night, the only person I can stomach on Fox News is, in fact, is Bill O’Reilly. I find Sean Hannity most annoying. Why is that? Because Sean Hannity is a water carrier, a talk points repeater. Quite bluntly, Sean Hannity is an idiotic gasbag — Not to mention he looks and dresses like a closeted gay twink. Sean Hannity is, in fact, a Republican. He spouts Republican talking points — all the while claiming to be a Libertarian. One thing I can tell you, Sean Hannity is not a libertarian, he is not even close. Even I, the most hawkish man in the blogosphere can tell you that. Sean Hannity, to me, represents the Bush-era Fox News. Which has since changed, they stopped with the stupid Bush-era talking points and moved on. Sean Hannity, well, not so much. As for Limbaugh, I respect the man for building such a large business around his, well, ego. However, I do not listen to him on a regular basis, and I will tell you why. Rush Limbaugh strikes me as someone who is love with his own voice — something that I find most highly annoying. Therefore, I do not listen to Rush Limbaugh for that reason. Like anyone else, I catch the clips online when he says or does something remarkably stupid. As for Glenn Beck, Beck peddles paranoia; I am not much into that sort of a thing really. Glenn Back believes that communism is still a real threat. I disagree; I believe that radical socialism is a real threat. However, staunch communism is not and has not been for many years — McCarthy saw to that little feat — and yes there is a big difference between socialism and communism, it even says this on the communist party USA’s website. I ought to know, I did look it up. I do not make a habit of yowling about things that I have no clue about, unlike some in this idiotic political blogosphere.

Therefore, yes, I do watch Bill O’Reilly; why, you ask — Because Bill O’Reilly is fair and yes, balanced. Anyone who actually watches his show knows that Bill does not carry water for the President, ever. Bill also is fair to the President; he does not just hate President Obama, because he is a socialist, much to the chagrin of those on the far right. Bill O’Reilly, like me, has a strong disliking of the socialist far left. This is because we both happen to know that socialism is a threat to the free capitalistic system in this country — this is why I respect the man. Another thing that made me begin to watch him at Bill O’Reilly was the fact that he stopped the policy of shutting people’s microphones off, that disagreed with him. I noticed that he was doing that, and because of this, I refused to watch O’Reilly. As much as I disagree with much of what the left has to say; I do believe that anyone in this Country, as long as they are not planning to overthrow or cause harm to anyone in this Nation, have the right to freedom of speech. This is what got Senator Joseph McCarthy into a great deal of trouble, this is why people like William Buckley Jr. and L. Brent Bozell Jr. (not to be confused with his son, Brent Bozell III) abandoned McCarthy. Because McCarthy wanted to exert thought police on the American people, that which is, sadly, a tactic of the far left. Because O’Reilly abandoned this practice of shutting microphones off, I began to watch him. I also starting watching Fox News and frankly stopped watching CNN and MSNBC because of the blatant partisanship of MSNBC and to a lesser extent CNN. I am all for a diversity of opinion, but when you actually stoop to the level of insulting your viewers, that is when I decided that the bus stopped here and I got off. (So to speak)

Getting back to the subject at hand here, Laurence Vance also accuses me of not being able to separate the Military from the Government. Which is most amusing, because his posting at Lew Rockwell’s Blog; he accuses the Military of occupying Iraq, which was done on the orders of the George W. Bush Administration — Which is something I pointed out in one of my previous postings. Therefore, to Mr. Vance I say — Project much, friend? But then again, when talking to a leftist, one can only expect so much — because to them, up is down and left is right, and the world is a very bizarre place; which is why I tend to avoid reasoning with them. After all, the Bible says; “If any man be ignorant, let them be ignorant” and I do try to follow the Bible as much as I possibly can.

While I am on the subject of Iraq, I feel the need to clear something up. If Mr. Vance or anyone else happens to believe that I am some sort of a Bush-supporting Republican, please be advised that this about as far from the truth that one can get. I did not vote for President George. W. Bush, at all, either time. During that time, I was firmly in the Democratic Party column. This pre-dated my blogging days. I was a left of center — albeit quite the “half-assed left of center,” but I digress. Further, I did support the Iraq war, until the reports came out and the White House admitted that they were wrong about Weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. In fact, it was that little incident, that triggered me to start blogging in February of 2006 as a “left of center” blogger. I will explain the reasons why I switched sides for another posting, as this one is getting very long.

Finally, to answer Mr. Vance’s charge of being a “Red State Fascist” — If loving America and in loving America; knowing that in order to maintain the peace requires strength. If knowing that the United States Military is a valued treasure in this Country and should be highly respected — If wanting to see the United States of America protected from terrorists; both foreign and domestic, makes me a Red State Fascist — I plead the only thing I that I will ever plead to a charge as this — guilty as charged.

May God Bless the United States of America and May God Bless the United States Armed Forces. Further more, Thank God for our Military and Thank God for the privilege of being able to debate those who I disagree with, without the fear of being criminally persecuted for it. We live in a wonderful Nation and I will always defend her from those who would want to slander her. I feel that it is the most that I can do.

31 Replies to “Answering Laurence Vance”

  1. Could the person who calls others “leftist” please define the criteria by which they identify them? I always thought “leftist” supported wealth redistribution, and that “leftist” are just as inclined as “rightist” to use force to achieve their goals.

    1. Could the person who calls others “leftist” please define the criteria by which they identify them? I always thought “leftist” supported wealth redistribution, and that “leftist” are just as inclined as “rightist” to use force to achieve their goals.


      I call ANYONE who is Anti-War a “leftist”. Which is what they have been called for years. You are referring to a SOCIALIST and yes, there is a difference.

  2. Hopefully all of the blowback you have recieved here Patrick will spark your curiousity. As for “not reading leftist bullshit”, shame on you! While the book you are referencing is hardly “leftist” (by actual definition, not your narrow one), one should ALWAYS read up on their enemies. Had you done that, you wouldn’t have come to this debate so ill-prepared. You make the right look foolish. PS- I’m on the right, the old right. Search “Paleoconservative”.

    1. Hopefully all of the blowback you have recieved here Patrick will spark your curiousity. As for “not reading leftist bullshit”, shame on you! While the book you are referencing is hardly “leftist” (by actual definition, not your narrow one), one should ALWAYS read up on their enemies. Had you done that, you wouldn’t have come to this debate so ill-prepared. You make the right look foolish. PS- I’m on the right, the old right. Search “Paleoconservative”.

      I normally would not even approve stupid comments like this; but I want people to see the vile hatred of the Paleo-Conservative and Libertarian left or Paleo-Libertarians. It is a fact, that most Paleo-Conservatives are racist Bigots and Antisemitic in nature. This is why I left the circles; because 90% of them are “In Bed”, with the socialist left, when it comes to Wars and our Military. Not to mention their hatred of the Jewish race.

      I believe in Freedom and I believe that Freedom EXTENDS to ALL. Black, White, Jewish, Arab… ALL RACES. Not just a select White Few.

      I hate Identity Politics, equally as much, I hate racism of ALL forms, whether it be outright or nuanced. White on Black, Black on White, Jew on Arab, Arab on Jewish —- It is ALL WRONG and needs to stop.

      -Pat

      P.S. Lew Rockwell is a fool and you’ll never change my opinion of him. He might be right on Fiscal matters, but it comes to foreign policy — he is as big of a jack assed fool, as Ron Paul is.

  3. @Patrick;

    “I call ANYONE who is Anti-War a “leftist”.”

    Well, now that you have made this assertion, can you define ‘leftist’ such that absolutely everyone who opposes any war, for any reason fits the definition?

    1. Okay, Seeing you were not some sort of rude ass about it. It is a fair question and I will answer it.

      First off, I do not, never did, or will I ever, support the Wilsonian foreign policy of George W. Bush. I believe Iraq was a fuck up from the floor up. Afghanistan war is another story. The Taliban did not surrender Osama Bin Laden and we overthrew them and now we’re after Al-Qaeda. I feel that it is worthwhile mission to break the damned backs of Al-Qaeda and the rest of them turban wearin’ mother fuckers, who want to see us dead. People do forget that them bastards did kill 2.996 of our fucking people, you do know this, right?

      Having said all that, the reason I have a big problem with Lawrence Vance and his idiot bobsy twin Lew Rockwell is his Anti-Military and as far as I am concerned, Anti-American asshole attitude is because when I see shit, like him calling our Military battlefield terrorists, it tends to piss me off. and when I see supposed Paleo-Conservative writers over at “The Nation” which is a fucking socialist rag, writing over there in unison with those bastards, I got a problem with it. Ya’ll seem to believe there is not such thing as left and right…. and it’s fucking bullshit, the fucking socialists want to destroy this fucking country and you mother fucking idiots are too damn fucking much into your god damned ideology to see that.

      There I said it, hopefully NOW, some of you mother fuckers might actually get it.

  4. OK then, we agree that Bush’s politically and fiscally ruinous foreign policy of military imperialism in Wilsonian drag is wrong. And that the core of what Bush should have done, was authorized to do (because congress is too cowardly to do its duty and declare war) was to hunt down al Qaeda, which he decidedly did not do. (he did, decidedly, strip us of fundamental rights in the name of fighting terrorism). So now we are up to two wars, clothed in Wilsonian pseudo- democratic jargon, but essentially naked aggression against, mostly, utterly innocent people. His successor, and alleged political enemy, is actually increasing aggression, and with it, the number of people who now see the US as an enemy. So it appears that war, as we wage it is more or less completely ideology-free. So if war is being so ineffectually, in support of no ideology, how can people who oppose it all be leftists? Can’t some of them oppose the modern American way of war out of self-defense, or common sense?

    1. OK then, we agree that Bush’s politically and fiscally ruinous foreign policy of military imperialism in Wilsonian drag is wrong. And that the core of what Bush should have done, was authorized to do (because congress is too cowardly to do its duty and declare war) was to hunt down al Qaeda, which he decidedly did not do. (he did, decidedly, strip us of fundamental rights in the name of fighting terrorism). So now we are up to two wars, clothed in Wilsonian pseudo- democratic jargon, but essentially naked aggression against, mostly, utterly innocent people. His successor, and alleged political enemy, is actually increasing aggression, and with it, the number of people who now see the US as an enemy. So it appears that war, as we wage it is more or less completely ideology-free. So if war is being so ineffectually, in support of no ideology, how can people who oppose it all be leftists? Can’t some of them oppose the modern American way of war out of self-defense, or common sense?

      Sure, they can and I can continue to call them leftists, like I do. More truthfully, they just isolationists.

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