Some libertarian leftist slams me on a blog, that brought 40 whole readers over here… 🙄
Anyhow… here’s what the Anarchist wrote:
looks like Lew Rockwell’s strategy of printing non-anarchist essays snagged a state-lover. When Lew showed his true nature, anti-state, this person thought he was being anti-American. Hey, Pat. I love my country, but I hate your government. And so does Lew. When you’re ready to stop pointing guns at people over every little thing, we can talk. But I’m not going to close comments on my blog, like you did on yours. Afraid of a little debate, eh?
via WTF?: Starting to really wonder about Lew Rockwell’s Blog | End the War on Freedom.
3 years ago, when I first started blogging; I would have ripped this person a new one. But seeing that I am a bit more refined than this guy. I will simple answer the questions.
- No, I am not a Statist.
- If you so hate this Government; which is an extension of this country; so much, why don’t you leave? Nothing is keeping you here.
- I will stop pointing Guns at people, when people like the Islamic Terrorists, (I know, Islamic, Terrorist = Redundancy) that you lefties just love to death, stop trying to kill people.
The whole problem with you lefty anarchists is this, you love chaos, and that chaos is used to forum a vacuum; which is quickly filled by big Government. Which I totally despise. Kinda like I despise the Socialism of your Democratic Cousins. (Again, Democrats, Socialism = Redundancy)
The problem with the puritan stance on the Libertarian foreign policy is that it is rooted in flawed thinking and conspiracy theory. Hence the reason that Ron Paul looked like a damn buffoon. He is absolutely right on Iran and So are you. I give you that; but Afghanistan is another story. Those bastards that flew those planes into the trade centers were not Jews, Not Christians, not anything, but Muslims, Islamic men. Terrorists? The whole damn religion is a religion of war.
The whole idea, that according to the Libertarian idea of foreign policy is that if we are attacked, we should just sit and take it and not do nothing; is idiotic at best. Hence the reason I am not involved in that party, in a formal manner. I agree with the principles of free enterprise and capitalism. But that party loses me, when they beginning to speak of the federal Government in conspiratorial terms. I just do not believe that the Government is smart enough to do anything, like they believe that it does; much less keep it a secret.
Also, let me say another thing. Libertarians; especially those of the Libertarian left or anarchists is this. They hate our Country and it’s form of lawful Government. In the name of so-called freedom, they commit acts of, yes, terrorism. To further their political agenda. Kind of like Bill Ayers. Yes, that is correct, I said it. Al-Aqaeda and the Libertarian left have much in common. They both hate our Country and our values system, our freedom and our Capitalist system. It was this same attitude that was on the mind of those who flew those planes into the trade centers. It is a sad thing to say, but it is the truth.
Admittedly, there have been times, when the Federal Government has overstepped it’s bounds. I have blogged about many instances where this has happened. That is why you have Conservatives and Right-libertarians, like myself, who have blogs, like me, that throw up the red flag and bring this sort of nonsense to the attention of the American people. This causes the Government, like in recent times to go, “Ooops! Our Bad!” and make changes to correct those mistakes. This is why people like me believe that big Government is BAD GOVERNMENT! Because of it’s tendency to make very stupid and sometimes horrific mistakes. Case in point; Waco, Ruby Ridge, and so on….
In fact, anyone that has read this blog, more than just coming and read one entry knows; that I am totally anti-centralized Government. In fact, I, like many of my Southern Paleo-Conservatives believe that Abraham Lincoln was a traitor. Not because he freed the slaves; but because he introduced a centralized form of Government. Not to mention the form of barbarism or as it called today; Terrorism that he inflicted on the south, in a war; that was not even fought remotely fair.
Having said all that……. I did answer his accusations of me not wanting a debate. I do close comments here after 10 days. Because I hate getting comments about something that I wrote like, a year ago and have go back and see what they heck they are talking about. Running a blog is all about being current and fresh. Not about harping on the past. Hence the reason they automatically close. I think he wants a blog fight or a argument. I just don’t desire to debate people that I disagree with; it doesn’t change a damn thing. All it does is cause problems, and I just do not need it, nor want it.
No, I meant the virtue of courage; of not tucking tail and leaving; of fighting for the things you love (like your community/society/homeland/etc). Sorry if I wasn’t clear.
Well yes, I assumed you did not vote for Obama. The question was rhetorical and was an attempt to illustrate the futility of voting. The logic being that you claimed that voting is a way to enact the changes you want, and yet even though you didn’t vote for Obama, he is in the White House. And the fact that an Obama presidency was the result of voting is precisely what undermines your claim of voting being some kind of useful, much less legitimate, process.
So I take it that you endorse the “vote for the lesser of two evils” strategy?
I’m honestly surprised that I’m not banned yet. Thanks man!
That’s quite alright. 🙂
You see this right here is where I disagree with the Libertarian crowd. You all have given up on the American process; Further more, this right here, strikes me as quite odd:
Now this is where you went all “Alex Jones” on me. You mean to tell me that you believe Obama was installed by some shadow organization? It defies logic; this is why I dislike the Libertarian and parts of the Paleo-Con Crowd, you subscribe to Conspiracy theories. The reason why I disbelieve that ignorant prattle is this here. Take the Word “Conspiracy Theory”, it is just that, someone’s theory as to how something happens or works. Before Alex Jones there was Art Bell, Art Bell made a great success out of himself, by allowing these people that believed these absurd theories on his show. There was a catch; he did not believe a word of it. It was all great entertainment to him. The problem is Alex Jones is this, he actually believes that nonsense and peddles it to the mental midgets that buy into that nonsense and of course, he is making a great deal of money at it. Is there anything wrong with it? Legally, No. Morally, Yes. Because I am convinced that Jones is just a great actor, and he knows that the influence that he is creating, in his circles and out of them. He is also aware of the money he is making too. If it ever dried up, so would he.
Anyhow, back to my point. I just cannot understand why you all are so convinced that the American system is broken to the point of giving up. I just cannot believe that, at all.
No, I do not. mine was more of a protest vote. Because I felt neither of the two major candidates had Americas best interests in mind. I believe that if McCain had won, we would have had the same problems as we do now. I believe there would not have as much intervention, but I believe he would have done some of the same stuff, as Obama.
That must be the misunderstanding. I am not against intelligent discussion. Not at all. But when you just leave silly little single line digs at me. I tend to lose my patience quickly. I realize that there are going to be those to totally disagree with me and I do realize that people are going to think that I am, 1) A Neo-Con, which I am not, and 2) might think I am a bit hawkish on defense. I can understand this, and I make no apologies for supporting justified war.
It is just the way I feel. Defending the homeland is what I believe in. Iraq was not a defending the homeland war, it was a distraction from the fact that we could not, or as some believe, we did not want to watch Osama Bin Laden. Afghanistan is another story. The people that trained to fly those planes into the trade centers were from there, and we’ve taken the fight to them. That’s what war is. I truly hope that we do kill them people over there, Al-Qaeda that is, not the civilians. Yes, I do know that they are killed from time to time; it happens in War and it is quite sad. But “Them’s the breaks” so to speak.
Okay… are we done with this debate now? Because I have other things to blog about, I am a one man operation around here! 🙂
Criticism is only an “attack” if you know your position has no case.
Whatever dude. I believe Libertarians have valid points as do Paleo-Conservatives and to a point Neo-Conservatives. However, Neo Conservatives Foreign Policy stance, which is quite Wilsonian is NOT one of them.
Pat, you’re too good of a writer to throw “lefty”, “liberal”, etc around so loosely — especially for someone who seems so anti-collectivism. With all due respect, practice what you preach and hold individual’s responsible for their individual arguments, instead of rebutting with lazy labels.
‘If you don’t like America, leave’ is another lazy argument. Is it not possible to hate the government of a country, but enjoy one’s lifestyle in said country over their projection of living within the territorial area known as another country?
At what level is your dissent virtuous and, say, Lew Rockwell’s evil? (since you’re familiar with him)
I am confused by something else and maybe you can clear it up for me: When can you reasonably say that it’s justifiable to remove someone’s property from his/her possession without the owner’s consent?
As for your belief in the rule of law, you are aware that the world is a polycentric legal order, right?
Sorry, I am not interested in having this debate with you. I believe in a rule of law. Your questions are non-sequitur with me, because they are rooted in fallacy and in a political position that I disagree with.
If someone does not pay property taxes, then the Government has the right to take said property. It’s called abiding by the law.
This is first and last thing I will say about that subject. Do not try and bait me or I will delete the comment and ban you from here, permanently.
In fact, I am closing the comments as of now, because quite frankly, I am sick of this debate. I am a Conservative/Right-Libertarian; and I do not chose to debate my positions with anyone. I believe in the rule of law.
Thanks for the fun, but I’ve had enough.