That’s right. For once, Sir-Bald-Alot, AKA Mr. Clean Jr. or as a he is commonly known as, “Joe The Pumber” — made a few statements that I actually agree with; for a change. Well, somewhat….
His comments will be followed by my thoughts:
Q:In the last month, same-sex marriage has become legal in Iowa and Vermont. What do you think about same-sex marriage at a state level?
A: At a state level, it’s up to them. I don’t want it to be a federal thing. I personally still think it’s wrong. People don’t understand the dictionary—it’s called queer. Queer means strange and unusual. It’s not like a slur, like you would call a white person a honky or something like that. You know, God is pretty explicit in what we’re supposed to do—what man and woman are for. Now, at the same time, we’re supposed to love everybody and accept people, and preach against the sins. I’ve had some friends that are actually homosexual. And, I mean, they know where I stand, and they know that I wouldn’t have them anywhere near my children. But at the same time, they’re people, and they’re going to do their thing.
I would not have used the phrasing that Joe did, as that only invites Ad-hominem attacks from the left, and of course, Joe will be called a hate monger by the far liberal left. But I have to say, that I wholeheartedly agree with the guy here. If I were a Father, I would not want Homosexuals around my children either. Sorry if that offends some, but hey, I believe that I; as well as Joe, has a right to protect his children from any sort of behavor or lifestyle that deems to be immoral and out of the ordinary. You also notice that Joe does not condemn the people themselves or even thier lifestyle. He just says that he has the right to shield his children from those who choose to pratice the homosexual lifestyle. Which is his right.
Q:Why does conservatism appeal to you as a Christian?
A: Conservatism is about the basic rights of individuals. God created us. As far as the government goes, the Founding Fathers based the Constitution off of Christian values. It goes hand-in-hand. As far as the Republican Party? I felt connected to it because individual freedom should not be legislated by the federal government.
This is where Joe goes into a revisionist history of our Government. We were not founded as a Christian Republican or as a Theocracy. We were founded as a secular Republic, which paid homage; albiet a rather lame homage to a “God”. We did not get into specifics as to which God, at all. Joe is flat wrong here, and he is engaging in revisionist history; or at worst reading from Roger Simon’s or Neil Podhartz’s Script.
Q:Does the Republican Party reach out to evangelicals enough?
A: No. None of them stand up for anything. They use God as a punch line. They use God to invoke sympathy or invoke righteousness, but they don’t stay the course. That’s why I think that all needs to be taken out of the federal level and give it back to the states. We’ve lost our American history. Every state has “In God we trust” or “With God’s help” in their constitution. God is recognized as, if you will, America’s religion.
The first part of that, is absolutely correct, the Republican Party; starting of President Reagan used the Christian community as “Useful idiots”; back in the 1980’s. What did they get in return for it? Nothing. Prayer in schools is still outlawed, Abortion still happens every day. So much for Reagan’s promises eh? George W. Bush and his band second generation of Neo-Conservatives did this to a more abusive level, even to the point of laughing at them in the oval office. Bush even went as far as to rub it in their faces, after his term in the White House, as he said in a exit interview, that he was not a Bible literalist. This was seen by many Christians as a slight towards them. Now the part about Christianity being America’s Religion; again Joe’s going off of the reservation with me. Because he is again, reciting that Christian Right fable that American was founded as a Christian Republic. That, I am afraid is a crock of bull. The United States States of America was founded by men, who just happened to Christians, although there are some, like myself; who happen to think that they were more Religious, then actual Christians. Benjamin Franklin, was, by most accounts an agnostic.
Q: Some people have criticized the Republican Party as being the party of the rich. How can they change their image?
A: I don’t know if they can change their image. I really don’t. But, you also have to take into consideration that the Democrats say they are for people in poverty. They’re not. They take advantage of all the tax breaks that the IRS has put in place for them. Tax lobbying is a billion-dollar industry up in Washington. Get rid of the tax code we have. Implement a fair tax—make it a level playing ground. People in poverty keep them in power—that’s what people have to understand.
I hate to say it, but Joe is right here as well. Personally, I do not see the problem with the well-off in this country having a party that represents them. Then again, I do not have that inbred hatred of those who are financially better off than I am. That is what the Democratic Party indoctrinates into people; hate or resent those who are better off than you, and rob them of their money and give to the poor. All of that is backward to the founding principles of this Country.
There’s more there, but these are the ones that I was interesting in commenting on.
I must respectfully disagree with your opinion, that American was not founded on a Christian Foundation, oh yes it was. They were all Christians or 2 Deists, and not one gay, Moslem, Atheist, Agnostic, Budhist, Hindu, Satanist were present, did I leave any out? What else could they have been called, but Christians in a Christian Republic ruled by God’s Law and Christian Laws? Tell me if you can. I think not.
When Congress broke they went to church and prayed, not to a bar to drink. Moses and the Ten Commandments are prominently carved in stone, above every courthouse and Congress, lest we forget, the Decalogue is the basis of God’s laws and man’s laws.
They prayed in Congress have have a Congressional Pastor today. Our Constitution based on freedoms given in the Bible from God to man are the basis of our laws today, before the greedy Rothschild’s Illuminati, overpaid puppet politicians, and gays seized control of it, with foreign treaties, executive orders, presidential signing statements, national directives, and made up civil rights for diversity, that have shredded the US Constitution, Bill of Rights, Articles of Confederation, Declaration of Independence from Britain, and the institutions of God: a Godly family, heterosexuality, Christian church, Christian school and soon a Christian Republic by the rule of Christian laws. Those documents only seconded the freedoms, rights and liberties that God gave to all men, while men were on earth.
In Babylon, we had a One World Government, One World Religion, and One World Monetary system that enslaved all men to build an edifice that flaunted the Rule of God and the Rule of Law, and God totally destroyed it, the Tower and City of Babylon. So today, the UN, funded by the Illuminati Rockerfeller, attempts to repeat this mistake and abandon God’s institution of Christian Republic, for a One World Government, Religion and Monetary System, but it will not last for long, about 7 years. Oh, Happy Day that will be.
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Joe the Plumber is mostly correct, but I do not trust the Republican or Democratic parties, they are puppets of the same puppet master, the Illuminati, Bilderbert Group, Trilateral Commission, Council of Foreign Relations, and the Bohemian Grove attendees with they not so wise owl. Better we toss them all, exile them as traitors of the state, and become Constitutionalists, cancel all foreign treaties, executive orders, presidential signing statements, and national directives, that contradict the US Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Declaration of Independence from Britain.
We need to bring our troops home and not start, fund, maintain, and man the wars of the Illuminati, who fund both sides of every conflict for population control and profit, at the expense of our national deficit and loss of our children for no good reason. We need to put our dollar back on the Gold Standard, so the Illuminati cannot use inflation, deflation, recession, depression and taxation – hidden or overt, to steal the fruits of our labor, freedoms, liberties and rights from us, then American will no longer be a debtor nation, and not have a national deficit, which will be eradicated by the stroke of a pen in 5 minutes, making our posterity from from greedy banksters.
Those who give up a little freedom, rights, liberties for security, deserve none of them.
David,
With all due respect, to claim that simply because some of the men who signed our Declaration of Independence and Constitution were Christians that America is a “christian nation” is ridiculous. That is akin to claiming that the products that my company produce are agnostic products, or in your case christian products. Sounds kind of nuts that way, huh? There was, in fact, heated debate among the founders about the wording of the constitution and related documents. Some wanted “christian god” represented others “nature’s god”, but in any case none were foolish enough to place a fledgling democracy in the hands of reckless theocrats. Imagine all of the world’s armies under the command of those asserting a divine duty to spread his/her faith. Oh never mind, you need not imagine such a thing. All you must do is pick up a history book and read. Mankind has been plagued since the dawn of time by overzealous evangelicals and tyrants alike whose insatiable lust for “souls to save” has brought us mass murder, torture, etc. in the name of god. If you want a “christian nation” pack up and head to the middle east, take up arms and join the rest of the zealots in endless war for a piece of dirt from which to plant your [insert religion here] flag.