Continuing from my previous posting about the hate mailing and hateful comments that I am getting, in response to my take down of the libertarian leftists who hate this Country with a passion.
From the comments section of the previous post:
“Just to let everyone know, I said my peace on this and I am not interested in debating it. Therefore, I am shutting the comments off; because I want thisposting to stand on its own.”
Evidence of an intellectual coward. But thanks for the knee slapping laughs. I’ll my points few because your “article” DESERVES to stand on its own as an example of the willingness and ease with which your average American plebe can be brainwashed. By the way, I noticed that elsewhere you insulted a correspondent for misspellings and poor grammar. You might note that “saying your piece” is the appropriate way of saying your “peace”. Also, though I am normally a fan of the semi-colon, your use of it above is unnecessary as a comma would suffice. Given that, I’m impressed that you left the apostrophe out of “its”!
You’ve surely objected to my implication of you as being less than bright, so I’ll give you a little thought puzzle rather than assume you’re incapable of figuring this out for yourself:
“How anyone can harbor such hatred for this Country and our Nation’s Military and still claim to be ANY kind of a Christian is beyond me.”
The answer to why you even ask this question can be found here:
“When I still was on the left; as little as that was, in terms of what I believed the Democratic Party to be about, I was always under the impression that Iraq was the war that was very unjustified and that Afghanistan was in fact, the good war . . .
Wow! Here’s one deep thinker: “as little as that was . . . in terms of what I believed . . . I was always under the impression”! Boy, you sure know your lefties!
And the answer to your question, “How anyone can harbor such hatred for this Country and our Nation’s Military and still claim to be ANY kind of a Christian is beyond me,” can be found in the bible. Perhaps you should read one (nice to note that via your capitalizations, you apparently place this “Country” and our “Nation’s” “Military” on equal terms with Christ. Straight from the bible belt. Move your bible from belt level to soul level and you may get somewhere”.
Oh boy! I just noticed another of your headlines, which includes the classic, unintentionally ironic no doubt, phrase: “classless assholes”. I’m inclined to include you as a daily read at this point to pass your posts around as my laugh of the day!
Doesn’t take much humor a liberal, now does it? 🙄
You have an incredibly ill-informed view of American history, if you think that Lew Rockwell and the like are anti-war because Liberals have infiltraded their ranks. Unfortunately, you are not informed enough historically to have any understanding of which facet of liberalism you are talking about.
Up until nearly World War I, Liberal was limited government. Progressivism in that day said that a government cannot dictate anything you do in your own home that does not infringe on the rights of someone else. This also went for foreign affairs, and was the reason we delayed so long entering WWI and were not abroad starting it like we would be today. In this case, you are right, this is the Liberal ideology that is where Lew Rockwell is coming from. Unfortunately, how many living sources are there of that generation who could have possibly made the switch? Someone alive at the onset of the War and able to have a direct link to the ideology would have to be about 110 years old, right?
Moving forward to the 1960’s, and where the nation as we knew it changed. This is where the nation changed, and the political ideologies unified on political lines. This is where Liberalism started to become Neoconservatism, and Liberalism. People liken this movement to the “Make Love, Not War” movement. This is true, for the Liberals. But out of that movement came a majority contentment in the nation with “spreading Democracy around the world.” This is the ideology of Clinton, both Bushes, Obama, Carter, and on down the line. The differences between Liberals and Neoconservatives lie in the issues of government’s role in abortion and gay rights more than anything, and every where else in the issues of spending and Egalitarianism are one in the same.
Clinton used the ideas of Collectivism to decide that everyone should be able to get a home loan, and look at the mess collectivism has created. Bush decided that No Child should be left behind, and look at the mess collectivism has created. Now we have Obama, who is a full-fledged facist, and look where we are heading.
Big government, big war, and the idea that we can go around the world and modernize “primitave or tribal societies” is very depressing. The ideology goes back to the 1960’s, where we started looking to the government as opposed to our church or ourselves to define what a marriage is. It goes back to the same generation where the federal government stole abortion legalization from the states where Constitutional authority lies. The education system the same, the Federal Department of Education that the Republicans used to oppose.
I was offended at first reading your post, but now I realize how dumb you truly are. You sit back and see Lew Rockwell (or someone like myself) as being closer to today’s Fascist Liberal party more than you do George Bush and the current Republican party.
And then you say to go back and look at the Constitution, which is the epidome of irony. Considering that the founders granted power to Congress to declare and fund a war, and the President the power to execute the war within the confines granted them, the point was to require that there be so much consensus in going to war that we would seldom do so. You are not a champion of limited government or Democracy, you are a champion of centralized authority and a puppet Congress that does what the King wants. You are not in favor of the founders, you are so far from the point of the founders’ Declaration of Independence from British authority that you have joined the other side.
You chastize the Obama’s of the world for being Communists or Fascists or even a Dictator, yet you defend the decisions of the Repubcican executive branches that exude those descriptors the most.
Now I realize you are just uninformed. You read articles, and you write down something on your blog that you think Sean Hannity would have you write, and yet do not realize how unintelligent Sean Hannity is.
Just because you know what is in the news, does not make you informed enough to put it in the write scope.
You are a waste of time.
Wow. So serious. But still, A leftist no doubt.
Dear Sir,
I was saddened to read your post about Rockwell. I had not planned to respond until I read your profile and noticed that we, apparently, share a common age. As such, I thought it may be instructive to engage you in letter to better understand your opinions on these important issues. You said in your post, “the libertarian movement has been infiltrated by Anti-War leftists who hate America, our Military and…” I wonder if this is truly an accurate description of the situation. Rockwell, et. al., has always been against state aggression, war being just an example of same, regardless of the “party” currently occupying the WH. I also recall that during the Clinton years, there was a strong sentiment on the right to resist pie in the sky military adventures. Church building, school construction, humanitarian with a gun nonsense…just to name a few. Are you sure that your comments reflect the important political nuances of this life and death issue? Further, how do you square your view of the situation with such “right wing” luminaries as Robert Nisbet & Russell Kirk?
I must also take issue with your description of affairs vis-a-vis Islamic extremism. To quote your post, “Not to mention the fact that on September 11, 2001, our Country was attacked by Islamic terrorists…” That just is not a helpful understanding of the problem. The US had been negotiating with the Taliban for years; even, under Clinton, encouraging same in their transition to power. The Bush administrations continued these talks, with renewed vigor, until the summer of 2001 whence these discussions broke off abruptly in Germany. Further, Islamic radicalism proper has long been nurtured, if a bit nervously, as part of our former cold war policy. Even after the fall of the Soviet Union, a number of these same Mujhe Hadeen types were apparently used by US authorities during the Kosovo boondoggle. They, as in the ‘80’s, were funneled through the Consulate in Jeddah Saudi Arabia.
I am truly exasperated by your apparent understanding of Christianity and the State. Towards the end of the second paragraph you said, “How anyone can harbor such hatred for this Country and our Nation’s Military and still claim to be ANY kind of a Christian is beyond me.” I am at a bit of a loss to understand this view point. Please define for me the word “country”. That may help me a bit.
In closing, you made a passing mention of the Iraq war and the evolution of your thought concerning same. You stated that you now unequivocally support this operation. This is an example of what we “libertarians” (I hate to use that word) find so frustrating in the popular Conservative paradigm. The Iraq war was marketed explicitly in modern liberal terms. The flag bearers of this adventure are self described “Wilsonians” who are, almost to a man, first generation descendents of the Trotsky wing of the left/Democratic party. And you call us liberal? Again, what about Nisbet and Kirk just to name a few??
I thank you for your time and hope that this engagement will allow both of us to understand how we see these important problems. Let us look at the issue square, we are both freedom loving individuals concerned, perhaps in differing ways, about the enormous problems before our country. We are facing, with some luck, a one term President and must find ways to build at least some governing consensus if we are to right this sinking ship. I don’t question your motives; I do question the breadth of the political spectrum that shapes your analysis. Have a good day.
Clint
Keep ’em coming boys and I’ll just keep posting ’em.
Update: Oh, the hits just keep on coming!
from Patrick is a Tard <PatrickisaTard@youarealoser.com>
to tpblogeditor@gmail.com
date Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 3:10 PM
subject You are a…
3:10 PM (2 minutes ago)
Trotskyite Nationalist. Your ideology comes from a communist.
Not that you could possibly understand this anyway, anyone who uses terms like Left/Right is immediately an idiot.
Boy, I bet that took a great deal of intelligence to write that! By the way this pranksters IP address is 66.56.141.30 and resolves out to cpe-024-031-198-090.sc.res.rr.com.
So, how’s the weather there in South Carolina? and does Road Runner internet know that you do such things? 😆
It is to wonder. 🙄
Update #2: Oh the intellectualism of these leftists:
Author : Joe Bob (IP: 67.8.245.240 , 240.245.8.67.cfl.res.rr.com)
E-mail : joebob@findme.com
URL : http://LewRockwell.com
Whois : http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl?queryinput=67.8.245.240
Comment:
You are clueless
Yeah? Well, you’re a Florida queer liberal! So there!
Update #2: I have decided that these liberals AKA libertarian leftists have nothing to say. So, I am locking down the comments to registered people only and putting in measures to make it harder for them to comment.